Anne Wilson Interview

March 7, 2010 at 11:48 am  ·  5 Comments
Categories: Classical Riding, Classical Trainers, Interviews, Spanish Riding School
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You are in for a special treat today!  I recently purchased Anne Wilson’s book, “Riding Revelations: Classical Training from the Beginning” and loved it.  (With a foreword by Sylvia Loch and the approval of The Spanish Riding School, you know it’s got to be good!)  So I was thrilled when she agreed to do a blog interview for Cavalli Connections!

Anne Wilson Bio
Anne Wilson has been training people with their horses for over 25 years.  She trained with the modern master, Sylvia Loch, and has been an active member of the Classical Riding Club since its inception in 1995; in 1998 being awarded the CRC Gold Award Certificate.

Anne has written two books; her first ‘Top Horse Training Methods Explored’ was published by David & Charles in 2004.  Her latest book ‘Riding Revelations’ was published in 2009 by Black Tent Publications – www.black-tent.co.uk

Anne also co-publishes, with Susan McBane, a quarterly subscription magazine called ‘Tracking-up’ – www.tracking-up.com

Anne’s website is – www.classicalridingannewilson.com

Anne Wilson Interview

Bree: What does the term “classical riding” mean to you?

Anne: Classical riding to me is nothing more nor less than correct riding.  It can be applied to every equestrian discipline and to every horse and rider.  Too many people believe that the term classical is somehow elitist, stuffy, or a specialist type of dressage. It is none of these things. A good classical seat is the foundation for cross country riding and jumping. Although the seat is altered, by taking the weight off the horse’s back, the principles of balance and laws of gravity are the same.

Classical riders follow the laws of nature, utilising the weight aids, which the horse can follow without any ‘training’ in order to do so.  This paves the way for a more harmonious partnership, less reliance on the reins, and the true classical training is far more enjoyable for the horse.

Of course true classicism, is far more than this. It encompasses an ethos of love, respect, humility, a willingness to admit when one is wrong, and a respect for the horse as a sensitive being.  This does not mean that we have to be ‘soft’ – on the contrary it takes more will power and strength of character to follow these ethics than to take the attitude of ‘I will be boss come what may’. The horse needs fair discipline, and I believe horses understand fairness and need a strong, kind, leader.  All the great masters have advocated this ethos. However, throughout the centuries there have been cruel training methods practiced by so called ‘classical masters’ as there still are today. This is confusing to some people but, when you think about, it is inevitable.  Human nature is such that there will always be some people who stray from the straight and narrow path.  In my opinion these trainers should not be called classical.

Bree: In your opinion, what is the biggest misconception about classical riding?

Anne: I think the biggest misconception is that classical riders are ‘soppy’ and that classical principles are out-dated. Many competitors believe that they cannot follow classical principles if they want to win trophies. They may also believe that modern methods must be better simply because they are modern. What they seem to forget is that the basic biomechanics of horses have not changed, nor have the laws of nature, such as Newton’s law of gravity, and all these laws seem to be ignored in much of today’s competitive riding. Classical principles have stood the test of thousands of years of time and cannot be shaken.

It may in fact be true that the quickest way to the top is not to follow classical principles, but that is only because the judging system has become misguided (some may say corrupt).  Where is the sense of achievement in winning under these circumstances, especially when it is undoubtedly at the cost of the horse’s well-being?

Bree: Why is classical riding and training best for both rider and horse?

Anne: In short classical training is designed to strengthen the horse, instead of strain him.  One only has to look at the longevity (or lack of it) of many competition horses to see that they are worn out at an early age.  It is not uncommon for the stallions at the Spanish Riding School to still be performing in their late twenties or even early thirties.  The Lipizzaner are a long lived breed, but I am sure this is not the only reason.

A classical trainer would not start to work a horse until he is at least four years old, and then very gently.  It takes many years to build up the strength, flexibility and stamina to perform the more advanced movements, but it is so much more worthwhile. For example, the movements are more beautiful and the horse is able to perform them, usually for the rest of his long life. Classicism works to enhance the natural beauty of the horse, not to use or abuse it.

When the classical horse is trained he is able to lift his forehand, taking more weight onto his haunches, thereby making him more agile, and relieving the stress on the forelegs which are much more vulnerable. This is one of the ways in which he is enhanced, rather than worn down.

Bree: Who are the riders that you admire most?  Why?

Anne: I have always admired the work of Col. Alois Podhajsky.  His books were my first real taste of classicism back in the 1970’s.  His whole ethos struck me as uplifting and his riding impeccable.

I have huge admiration for my mentor Sylvia Loch. I believe that her riding and training techniques are second to none in the world today.  She treats each horse as an individual and has great empathy and patience. Her riding is light and harmonious.

There are other classical riders I have admired but these are the two who have influenced me the most.

Bree: What would you like to see aspiring classical riders work on more?  Work on less?

Anne: I would like to see aspiring classical riders being prepared to work at the horse’s pace and not expecting too much too soon.  People need to understand that a young horse needs time before his back and hind legs are strong and supple enough to enable him to flex his jaw and come onto the bit.  Of course I would like to see all hyperflexion (or Rollkur) practices ceased forthwith.  Horses should be given a chance to use their head and neck as nature intended. It is only natural for a young horse to poke is nose outwards, until he has built up the strength to use his body in a better way – time and the correct exercises must be employed to facilitate this.  In some cases it takes longer than others. Breeding and conformation play a part in this, but all horses, in my opinion, need more time to develop.  The horse should come onto the bit when he is ready – the rider should not attempt to put him there.

Bree: Besides your book, can you recommend books on classical riding to readers that have been particularly helpful to you?

Anne:
The Complete Training of Horse and Rider – Col. Alois Podhajsky – Harrap 1967

My Horses My Teachers – Col. Alois Podhajsky – J.A. Allen 1997

The Riding Teacher – Col. Alois Podhajsky – Sportsman’s Press Edition 1993

The Classical Rider – Sylvia Loch – J.A. Allen 1997

The Classical Seat – Sylvia Loch – new revised edition D.J. Murphy 2009

Dressage in Lightness – Sylvia Loch- J.A. Allen 2000

Dressage for the 21st Century – Paul Belasik – J.A. Allen 2002

Revolutionize Your Riding – Susan McBane- David & Charles 2007

Horsemanship – Waldemar Seunig – J.A. Allen Classic series 2003

Exercise School for Horse and Rider – Lesley Skipper – New Holland 2008

Many of these books are new editions of old classics.  There are many more but these are a few to be going on with.  When you’ve read all of those I can give you more!

I would also suggest you join the Classical Riding Club (started by Sylvia Loch)  – www.classicalriding.co.uk

Bree: What was the best riding advice you ever received?

Anne: That’s a hard question to answer, because there has been so much wonderful advice over the years.  However, I think the best collective advice (I have heard it/read it from many classical masters), is not to be disheartened when things go wrong, and not to keep practicing something in the same way if it is not working.  Ride a different movement or pace which you know the horse enjoys and come back to the difficulty either later or another day, preferably approaching it in a slightly different way.  Often sleeping on something helps; thinking about the problem when doing other things often brings about an idea of how to approach things differently.

Bree: What is your biggest equine regret?

Anne: My biggest regret is probably the fact that I have never managed to get to train at one of the centres of excellence, say in Portugal or Spain.  However, one should never say never – maybe one day!  I still count myself extremely lucky to have trained with Sylvia Loch in the UK and was able to ride her absolutely wonderful schoolmaster, the late Lusitano-Arab stallion Palomo Linares.  I don’t suppose I could ever better that!

Bree: Proudest equine moment?

Anne: When my uncle, after watching me school my mare, was bemused by the fact that we were performing trot shoulder-in, then cantering across the school, more shoulder-in and then half-pass one way, then changing the bend and back to the track.  He asked how I was instructing the horse because he couldn’t see me move, nor any action of the reins.  That was extremely gratifying, making me proud of the partnership I share with my mare Lucy-Lou.

Bree: How can riders help promote awareness of classical riding?

Anne: Promoting classical riding has never been easy.  Probably the biggest drawback is the fact that it is hard to define – hence my lengthy answer to Question 1 above.  I wish I had a pound for every time someone has asked me ‘what is classical riding?’  If I need to give a quick answer I usually say “it is just correct riding, following the laws of nature, gravity, etc., and never going against the nature of the horse, never forcing anything.”  Obviously one has to mention the great classical masters, the length of time that classical riding has been around; thus proving itself to be the best method, but sometimes this comes across as staid and old fashioned.

I think that probably the best way to promote it is by example – to ride harmoniously and to be able to show, as I did to my uncle, that there is no need for harsh aids, nor for the horse to be stressed in any way. I would advise against being too critical of other methods; try to be humble but point out that you believe there is a better way. If we are too aggressively critical, people are often put off – and remember that not all trainers or riders calling themselves ‘classical’ actually are what they say!

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Dressage Is Not A Discipline

December 21, 2009 at 1:59 pm  ·  1 Comment
Categories: Classical Riding, Competition, Dressage, Jumping, Riding, Suppleness, The Training Scale, Training
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In the past, when people found out that I rode horses, the first question I would get was “What kind of riding do you do??” and my usual response would be “dressage”. Then I changed it to “dressage and jumping” because if you just say dressage, for some weird reason everyone assumes you do a few select things on a few select (and usually fancy) horses and everything else is out of your range of abilities. Which is strange, because correct, classical dressage puts you into the position to participate in pretty much any type of riding. But it was sort of true – mostly I rode in a dressage saddle, and sometimes I jumped in a close contact saddle. And sometimes I even jumped in a dressage saddle (did you gasp? :-P ). But I did lots of other things that the layman wouldn’t even think to associate with “dressage”. The image of dressage has become that rider at the Olympics, all decked out in the right outfit, riding a multi-million dollar horse, having trained for years and years for this moment. But that image is only the tip of the iceberg, a tiny piece of the truth. Unfortunately it seems to put the average rider out of reach.

Later on, as I acquired more knowledge about certain things supposed “dressage riders” were doing out there in the world, I stopped answering the question as to what kind of riding I frequented with “dressage and jumping” and simply said “English”. If elaboration was called for, then I would say “dressage and jumping” still…but it made me uncomfortable. I didn’t want anyone to think I did what I saw a lot of riders do who claimed to “ride dressage”. It was just embarrassing. And you don’t even have to get into serious topics in the equestrian world like rollkur. For example, I recently witnessed a woman, who loudly proclaims to be a “dressage rider”, get extremely upset with her horse after the mare refused to stand still and allow her to shut the gate after exiting the arena. The horse apparently took a few steps forward, and this woman tried to get the horse to back up to where she felt she should be…and when the horse refused she pulled and pulled and used her entire body weight to pull on both reins. The horse braced herself and refused to move. The lady then continued pulling and proceeded to kick and kick and kick…with spurs. And then used her whip on the horse’s chest with every ounce of her strength. The horse at this point kind of half-reared, and still refused to go backwards. All this time, the lady is not only out of control physically, but emotionally she is a wreck. I swear, this must have gone on for 20 mintues. If it had been my place rectify the situation, believe me, I would have done it. Unfortunately it was not, and I had to witness this with my blood boiling and threatening to blow the top of my head off. In my mind I saw myself running over, throwing the fit the horse probably would have liked to throw, and screaming “Don’t you EVER tell anyone you do dressage!!” But…that wasn’t really a possibility. And so…this is a definite dilemma. I really don’t want to be associated with that and I definitely don’t want some to-be or novice rider seeing that and thinking that’s ok. Because yes, “dressage” is and should be so much more than just what you do in the arena. It’s everything about how you treat your horse.

“If training has not made a horse more beautiful, nobler in carriage, more attentive in his behavior, revealing pleasure in his accomplishment, then he has not truly been schooled in dressage.” ~ Col. Handler

So why has dressage become categorized as a discipline, a mere subset in the sport of riding, when it is the basics to all riding? One of the reasons I have come up with is because there are dressage shows. So people think, “Well I don’t ride dressage so I can’t show at those shows”. Not exactly. What I usually tell people if I have the golden opportunity to explain is that dressage is just French for training and they should try to think of someone who only “rides dressage” as being like someone who works out just for fitness’s sake. Not for any certain sport, just to be the best human being they can be. Theoretically, if that very fit person chose to do a sport they would have a clear advantage over their unfit counterparts. So dressage is riding for riding’s sake, making the horse the best athlete he can be and therefore expanding his options. I tell people that when you go to a dressage show, what you are really doing is showing how well your horse is trained at the level at which you’re competing. The qualities dressage judges look for are not specific to dressage at all. Would a western or hunter jumper rider ever claim that things like suppleness, flexibility, and accuracy aren’t important to them? Of course not. So if they are training correctly they are doing dressage without even knowing it. It’s just correct training. And riding is always training because it is darn near impossible to ride a horse and not influence the horse. All influence on the horse is training, whether it is good or bad, correct or incorrect.

The coolest thing would be to see an influx of riders who typically only go to other types of shows start to show up at dressage shows to gauge their training.

The real shame here is that a lot of horses are missing out. Every horse deserves the chance to be trained correctly and to be the best he can be. If dressage weren’t considered an area to specialize in, and instead were the basics to which everyone learned to ride and then chose what “discipline” to show in or what saddle to ride in, or what-have-you…how many horses would be better off? Not to mention the riders. This is one reason why I love K.A. von Ziegner’s version of the training scale in Elements Of Dressage: A Guide To Training The Young Horse so much. He has a “Training Tree” where the trunk contains the scale and the leaves are the discipline in which the horse competes after he has been trained according to the scale. Dressage, Jumping, and Eventing are up there. And so maybe what we should really be calling dressage is the higher levels (4th Level onwards perhaps?), where horses move onto after receiving correct basic training. And so all of us sub-double-bridle classical dressage riders would instead tell people “I just ride…correctly…but someday I hope to do dressage” – ha!

I would really love to tell people “I ride dressage” and have them understand what I really mean…but I don’t think that’s going to happen anytime soon. So nowadays, when I am asked what type of riding I do, I say “Classical Riding”. And I do it because 99.9% of the time the person will say, “Huh…what’s that?

Then I get to say: “I’m so glad you asked…” :-)

I would really love to hear your thoughts on this!

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